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  Would this be any use to the Royal Commission?

  by freddo in

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  2. scandals

  i believe this shows how the org.

  doesn't want to be held accountable to secular legal authorities.. in the 1991 green elders handbook (used between 1991 and 2010) there is a blank page (page 143) and at one elders school we were instructed to write six expressions that "should not be used on s77 + s79 forms (df and da forms)".. 1) anything alluding to or naming one of the society's legal advisers.. 2) any mention of the legal desk.. 3) any comments referring to direction from the society.. 4) any comments mentioning anyone other than the committee itself as a possible influence in the decision reached.. 5) any comment that might suggest someone with a critical eye that the committee did not reach its decision on its own but instead somehow yielded to the influence of an outside party.. 6) any comments indicating the elders mishandled the case or committed any error in the investigation or the judicial committee process.. i have in my possession two elders handbooks with these exact words written in each in different handwriting.

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  I pm'd you Freddo ;-)
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  Katie Kitten's Commentary on the Royal Commission

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  katie kitten has produced three youtube videos in which she explains and gives commentary on the royal commission.

  she has some great comments on the proceedings.. days 1 to 4:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya9ts_eorh4.

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  I have listened to these, she has a great perspective, and picks up on a lot of details, a nice review of each day!

  Well worth the listen!
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  Do you have caller ID? When I get calls from salesmen nowadays, I simply answer the phone (do not say a word) and hang up. Very easy, non-emotional. I don't feel guilty a bit... I don't give a reason to the person 'calling for the firemen's benefit'... I simply "hang up"..... Perhaps you can try this... After a while they will get tired of dropped calls ;-)
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  Can You Really Become Inactive Instead of DA'ing and Keep Your Family

  by truth-or-consequences in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oz branch coordinator terrence o'brien opined a number of times at about 1:00:00 until about 1:15:00 of his testimony, that a dub does not need to da, they can become "inactive.".

  i sent our beloved angus stewart my personal experience, as well as observations about official borg teachings.

  (he replied in short order.).

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  I am not DF'd or DA'd, but do not go to meetings, or anything JW..... I am basically "left alone." My mom won't give me her cell phone #, my sisters don't call me or e-mail me (though they did not do that much ANYway... I was always the 'caller'.)
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  Geoffery Jackson Plan Against the Commission

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  geoffrey jackson will attempt to df them all, shun them, take away their privileges, write a wt article on them, have the elders talk to them, their family cut off ties with them, read them watchtower articles, tell them they need to submit at least 10 hours per month etc... .

  then, the "oh shit" look on his face moment when he realizes he has no power outside of his pinky ring club.

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  Regarding Marvin's comment:

  It's not safe ground and by past accounts GB members who've ventured specific views that were yet to be adopted by the GB found themselves in hot water. But Jackson is going to be front and center, and the GB must know the video is going to go viral among the JW and ex-JW community no matter what he says.

  It may also be a an Ace held in his hand.... If he is asked questions that cause his answers to "go against the grain" he WILL be on video, there will 'relatively' be no way to spin what he said (it will be on the internet, haha) (and yes, there is always a spin, but for the person who wants the bottom line, it will be there in black and white).

  In the past, when others went to court, the transcripts may have been harder, more expensive to find...

  Nowadays, in this information age, people are aware of how to look court cases up, get transcripts, search the net, etc.
  
  
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  My sons first talk

  by lukejmedic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  quick backstory:raised a jw, ms, reg pioneer, international need greater work.

  i have been da for 2 years, divorced, ex and my son live 6 hours away near walkill ny.. my sons first talk is coming up, in august.

  he is 7 years old.

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  Luke, you will never regret that bond and memories you made with your son... I think the only thing that kids think about is "My dad was there!" and they all want their dads to be proud of them.... He will treasure this!
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  Hi Kairos, nice to hear what's going on... tho it is stressful, yes...

  It is hard to not get emotional... I myself think, "what if I saw so and so?" I hope that I will be able to think of them as a "deck of cards"... like Alice in Wonderland. When she realized they were a silly, powerless pile of paper, they had no hold, no power.

  I am not sure that 'suing' will work... from what I hear, for slander, you have to have something that you can prove the defamation has cost you a loss of money in terms of work, defaming your name? I think, in practical terms, you would have to find out the law before you tell them you will 'take them to court,' as I am not sure what you CAN do, right?

  Hang in there, remember your wife, and your life is more important than they are, and this whole "We want to meet with you" is going to take time away from your wife... It could cause turmoil... so the calmer you are, the better. Don't let them distract you.... Keep your goals.... Your life, your marriage, and don't let them get you 'started.'

  So sorry, it is so hard to go through this... You are a nice guy, with a good heart, and don't ever let them take that away from you... Keep up your self esteem, you are worth it!

  Cha Ching & Hubby
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  Reveal News: One Thing Leads to Another

  by ABibleStudent in

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  2. scandals

  according to reveal news' website at https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/one-thing-leads-to-another/, "in august, we're is picking up the threads from three major investigations to see whats happened since they aired.

  these are stories that moved people, made them angry and sparked change.".

  peace be with you and everyone, who you love,.

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  Maybe the Royal Commission's efforts have spurred on the U.S into taking a look at abuse within JWville.... Sounds as tho there will be an "ongoing" investigation, right?

  "The Jehovah’s Witnesses leadership has created sophisticated strategies to conceal allegations of sexual abuse. Witnesses instruct local elders to keep claims of molestation private, internal documents show, all the while collecting detailed information on predators in their ranks.

  For abuse victims, this can mean enduring a variety of hardships, such as being ignored by leaders and shunned by family and friends. Based on Reveal reporter Trey Bundy’s ongoing investigation, here are five issues victims have encountered."
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  We are not thinking folks. What is the best way to get JW's to check out the events in Australia.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tell our jw family members, door knockers, and stand sitters that you were very impressed.

  by the branch overseer and other elders in australia, they gave a fine witness.. so what will happen, they will tell their friends the brothers in australia gave a fine.

  witness.

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  Anon2: Rescuing someone from a captor is heroic.

  You were not trying to be mean, were you? Just adjusting to the personality, right?
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  We are not thinking folks. What is the best way to get JW's to check out the events in Australia.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tell our jw family members, door knockers, and stand sitters that you were very impressed.

  by the branch overseer and other elders in australia, they gave a fine witness.. so what will happen, they will tell their friends the brothers in australia gave a fine.

  witness.

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  cha ching

  Anon2, you are brilliant! Well played!

  Really, it reminds me of when my children were little, and they needed to have a well rounded diet. Perhaps they were not interested in eating 'different' things. It was for their benefit to not be "restricted" in the food that they ate.

  All I needed to do was smack my lips, say mmmmmmm..... and not offer it to them, and their brains started to change. If I DID offer them anything, it was just a teeny, tiny bit... as if I was not that interested in having them eat it....

  Results? A healthy diet.

  Brilliant!